Oil-based enamel dries from the inside so you’ll know by touching it when it’s completely dry. Enamel can be erased by your fingers due to natural oil in your skin. But the point being it's all acrylic over acrylic but different brands. Aside from knowing which type of paint to use, it is also important that you know how much amount of color you will be needing. For instance, if you’re painting a wall, then you might need more than just one can of paint for the whole project. Therefore you also know what the needs are. it was an oil-based animal and we thinned it and washed out our paintbrushes with ordinary paint thinner (or something similar). I recently started a new model, and when I pulled off some masking tape it pulled up some of the paint. I have not tried this with gloss acrylic. "acrylic lacquer": no such animal. Enamel is an oil based paint which dries off to a hard glossy finish. "acrylic enamel": ad-speak. I have a few other questions regarding "pigments" & weathering techniques coming shortly. The most widely used acrylic lacquer is CAB-acrylic. The main prob is I've a partly completed 767 which is ready for the decals, I need to know if it's safe to spray over the decals with tamiya clear laquer? Enamels & acrylics can cover enamels (but not lacquers!). (So says a victim…). Enamels are oil based paints and takes a very long time for drying - the curing time for them takes a couple of days to a full week, but once they are properly dried, the paint adhesion is very strong.You can even paint them over acrylic or lacquer painted models. Only lacquers I remember from back then were in model railroad department. I finish with a coat of matte (e.g., military) or gloss (e.g., race car) to seal-in the detailing. If you plan on using tape over paint, preparation is key. Oh, and I nearly forgot… WELCOME and post pictures. The preparations are as important as the painting process itself. Acrylic lacquers have a faster drying time than acrylic enamels, and they produce an even harder, durable surface. Which by the way are the silk DRAW decals. Why is this zombie post ressurected? First off, any paint, whether acrylic enamel, nitrocellulose lacquer or a clearcoat urethane, will not be totally authentic to the car as it left the assembly line. Consequently, its moderate coverage also means that it can leave on brushstrokes. hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. Any info is greatly appreciated and THANKS in advance!! Your lungs will thank you. Ha none neither, we use acrylic urathane auto paint. So I thnk being flat I should have put a gloss coat on it to help the tape from pulling it up?? If you hand brush, Acrylic is the way. Unlike enamel that dries off to a glossy finish, acrylic dries off with a matte finish. I had no idea there was that much to it- all the alcohol/water/oil base stuff!! You can put lacquer thinner in enamel, but you can’t use enamel thinner (reducer) in Lacquer. It's frustrating. But recently I did up a car with stynylrez primer ( acrylic poly), rose gold craft paint ( acrylic) and top coated with 3 full wet coats of Tamiya clear red and blue mixed to a kind of burgundy red. (So says a victim…) Oh, and I nearly forgot… It’s recommended for hand painting (slower drying allows for additional time for the paint to self level and hide brush strokes). I generally use these for detail painting only, as they tend not to dry as fast as acrylics. Acrylic really just indicates one of the four main components of paint, that being the Binder (Pigment, Additive and Solvent being the other three). And so to answer that question, here are some key differences between enamel and acrylic paint. Acrylics tend to be the easiest to work with, as they don't stink the place up and are easy to clean. Enamel paint tends to turn yellow over time in indoor areas where there is not enough sunlight. So now we had our "traditional" oil-based paints and the newfangled acrylics. Water based acylics are the worst, as they essentially just sit on top of the plastic. And so to answer that question, here are some key differences between enamel and acrylic paint. Therefore, it might need a little bit more coating to achieve an individual depth of color (especially if you prefer a darker, more solid shade). And lacquer on top of acrylic can cause problems if the acrylic isn't totally cured. now I need to get testing. These are significantly friendlier to the environment compared to your traditional enamel paint. Enamel paints are also for giving walls a shiny finish. It's been a year since I painted it and my lazy ass never buffed it... so my plan was to wet sand it reclear coat it, and since acrylic Lacquer is a much better paint I would like to use it to get a better shine then the acrylic Enamel.. Enamels, however, are slow drying. Generally, if you airbrush, you can use one over the other. Most importantly, do not forget to prepare the surface. Edit: just happened to think, I've put clear lacquer over acrylic many times with no issue and various types of lacquer. People use water, alcohol, flow-aid, retarder, and voodoo magic when mixing acrylics for airbrushing. Acrylic paint, unlike enamel, doesn’t give as much coverage because it is water-based. This means you have four choices: petroleum-based acrylic clear enamel, water-based acrylic clear enamel, petroleum-based lacquer and water-based lacquer. Base coat acrylics can only be covered by more acrylics. Likewise, if you will be painting hard to reach areas, you cannot just use big brushes or roller brushes. In general is this true? Water-based enamel, on the other hand, starts drying from the outside. Sadly when I sent all my stuff to Oz, I wasn't allowed to ship all my acrylic sprays (fire risk etc), and as humbrol sprays are about as common as unicorn droppings here, I'm not sure what I can use. Do take note though that enamel takes pretty long to dry up. Preparing the surface for the type of paint you will be using will help the paint adhere easier and faster while lasting longer. I thought that was not allowed. I'm not sure which lacquers these are, so i just tend to only buy paints and their proprietary thinners from hobby stores assuming they are all ok for styrene. Once upon a time (let's say up to 1980 or so) all we had was "model paint". if you see this on the label, it is ad-speak. Acrylic latex paint is an acrylic finish, but it won't soften when you spray lacquer on it. If you have questions, this is the place to ask. The film thickness of an acrylic enamel paint is much thicker than the paint film thickness of enamel, or lacquer-based coatings. As for lacquer...sorry, i'm not 100% sure on what the carrier base is. Any auto supply shop w/paint can m ix and put in to spray bombs and then lay some clear over the base coat. PPS: Tamiya's acrylics are a peculiar animal. I did the engine with craft paint, then a light oil wash just added some depth, not so much for dirt. Diapers Size 6, 108 Count - Pampers Cruisers... Filtrete Advanced Under Sink Quick Change Water... Brita UltraMax Water Filter Dispenser, Extra Large... Engdenton Faucet Water Filter Stainless-Steel... Woder WD-S-8K-DC Water Filtration System - WQA... Brita Water Pitcher with 1 Filter, W 1 Std, White. Acrylic is least durable. Using a lacquer gloss coat allows detail washes to flow easily and be wiped away. Acrylic paint is a water-based paint, making it water and ultra-violet resistant. Growing up in San Francisco in the 60's, all I remember having was Testors and Patra. Or, you can paint with acrylic lacquer. Ultimately though, it's really up to your personal preference as to whether you prefer acrylic or enamel and whichever gets you the best results (and which colours you can find in each to suit your needs). View our, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials, From: People's Socialist Republik of Kalifornia. This is to get you to believe that although an acrylic polymer is used, and you can clean up with soap and water, the coating is just as durable as the old enamels. Viewing 2 posts - 1 through 2 (of 2 total) Author Posts July 25, 2010 at 1:40 pm #23279 Thomas […] I presume they can be used for other purposes, but i'm a bit unsure. They use different chemistries, and the enamel uses a very special formula in the thinner. But they're also pretty delicate, may not tend to stick as well, and may have more issues airbrushing them. My vote is for enamel. It is up to you whether or not you will use enamel or acrylic. For enamel, it is best suitable for surfaces that need some extra coating or hard finish, such as outdoor walls, wood, and others. I'm afraid I cannot speak for enamels as I use them so infrequently, but I routinely put laquers over acrylics. Acrylic enamel finishes are always used in current automobile paint jobs, although some people use lacquer for classic car paint jobs. Due to this, it (polish lacquer) is also used to varnish wood and make it waterproof or rot-resistant. It sounds like alot of work but the results are a lot nicer, will last longer and look better. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. That doesn't mean choices didn't exist, I just don't remember hearing the terms "enamel", "acrylic"  & "Lacquer" when it came to model paint. Sometimes it can even take up to 24 hours. Many DIY touch up paints are made from Acrylic Lacquer. In their wisdom, the marketing people decided that they needed to label the traditional paints "enamels" to differentiate them from the acrylics. It was a black flat acrylic paint with no clear coat. $40+ shipping. Some even try mixing both the acrylic and enamel. Also, the oil tends to separate from the paint when stored for too long. After an almost 30 yr hiatus from building military models, I've got back into the swing of things. Today, we will talk about the differences between the two and where they are suitable to use. Some of the worst compatibility problems I've encountered have been enamel over enamel. Here's my prob....I've just moved to Oz from the UK. Tamiya sprays (laquer) are very popular here as well as testors enamal sprays. Now, you may know what both paints are for, but that doesn’t help find out the difference between the two. And an alternative is having multiple threads about the same question or topic, which makes it harder to keep track of things, I think. If the Enamel is an original baked finish there should be no problem. Enamel paints are durable and become hard, glossy, and opaque when dry. If you are painting a pretty large surface, then be prepared to spend a little bit more. Acrylic paint doesn’t turn yellow over time. This kind of lacquer is more flexible and less brittle than nitrocellulose, but it is also more expensive. In general is this true? But, some modelers I knew did use auto lacquers for their model cars (many still do). Short compatibility matrix (thanks to Masataka Narita), The L E A (Lacquer Enamel Acrylic) Rule: Lacquers, enamels & acrylics can safety cover base lacquers. Unlike other types of paint that still need a glossy finish as a final layer of coating, you do not have to do this anymore with the enamel. acrylics do not. Will acrylic enamel paint dry without hardener? acrylics seem to be much more durable then most testors enamels that i have used. That sucker shines and I haven't polished it. Others just throw some Vallejo into the paint cup and get perfect results without even trying. 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